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BRANDED 10:14 Tue Feb 10
You can eat butter

And all fatty foods. New guidelines.
Just as well I ignored to old ones.

Moncurs Putting Iron 7:02 Wed Feb 11
Re: You can eat butter........

......Preferably with other things and not by the fistful as a cinema snack.

Swiss. 5:11 Wed Feb 11
Re: You can eat butter

Sounds like the atkins diet.

Ricky 5:09 Wed Feb 11
Re: You can eat butter

Nice one hammersmad

defjam 1:08 Wed Feb 11
Re: You can eat butter

hammersmad - Well done, all the best.

hammersmad 1:06 Wed Feb 11
Re: You can eat butter

I was diagnosed as type2 diabetic in late 2008 and spent the next 5 years or so battling to control it with ever increasing doses of medication. In July 2014, my wife (bless her) persuaded me to switch to a Low Carbohydrate High Fat diet. 8 months later, I have lost 15 kilograms and my blood sugar levels are back to normal. My medication is now less than half of what I was taking. All this by eating food (Steaks, chops, chicken with skin on) fried in a combination of virgin olive oil and butter. I use full cream milk, cream and lots of yoghurt. I am absolutely amazed at the results and feel sensational. Long may it continue!!

Scraper 11:06 Tue Feb 10
Re: You can eat butter

RAGE

Scraper 11:04 Tue Feb 10
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Alex_The_Iron 10:29 Tue Feb 10

Yez, but u were insinuating that the inflammation that causes atherosclerosis is caused solely by insulin resistance

I can't see de logic in dat

Pleaze provide a cause and effect diagram in simple terms

BRANDED 10:32 Tue Feb 10
Re: You can eat butter

We propose that antagonism of RAGE, especially in concert with complementary therapies, such as strict glycemic and lipid control, will remodel the landscape of the perturbed vasculature leading to prevention/stabilization of vascular and cardiac dysfunction in diabetes and beyond. Rigorously controlled clinic trials are required to test these concepts in human subjects and are on the horizon.

Sound like a hypothesis?

Alex_The_Iron 10:29 Tue Feb 10
Re: You can eat butter

Another one re: excess sugar, inflammation and artherosclerosis:

http://circres.ahajournals.org/content/93/12/1159.full

Alex_The_Iron 10:25 Tue Feb 10
Re: You can eat butter

And I'm sure you realise that when I recommended beef as a protein source (especially in the context of LEAN protein recommendations) I'm not recommending it as the ONLY protein source.

Though to be fair, the fact I only named beef as a protein source could be misinterpreted that way I suppose, so I'll concede that one. :)

BRANDED 10:23 Tue Feb 10
Re: You can eat butter

No gravy?

Alex_The_Iron 10:22 Tue Feb 10
Re: You can eat butter

Also, some sources, if you insist:

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/25102/version/1

http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/abstract/S1534-5807%2802%2900199-5

http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/52/8/2097.full?ijkey=c30ecf67b38ac20bc59ecf06ac0a8cbb539532fc

http://www.jbc.org/content/277/52/50230.full

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1483173/

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/pdf/10.1210/jc.2005-0559

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/25977/pdf

Alex_The_Iron 10:15 Tue Feb 10
Re: You can eat butter

Scraper 9:45 Tue Feb 10
I want an atherosclerosis-proof diet presented before FT in tonight's games.


Let's hear your recommendation first, as you clearly have all the answers. With sources of course :)

Scraper 9:45 Tue Feb 10
Re: You can eat butter

We shall see.

I want an atherosclerosis-proof diet presented before FT in tonight's games. Beef does not qualify.

Gruesome Dump 9:28 Tue Feb 10
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Scraper, far be it from me to interject when someone is in full flow, but big Al knows his onions on this.

Scraper 9:08 Tue Feb 10
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Actually I did read on.

"inflammation (causing atherosclerosis), which usually is caused by or causes insulin resistance"


You just made that up, didn't you? Especially the 'usually'.

Scraper 9:06 Tue Feb 10
Re: You can eat butter

Stopped reading at grass fed beef.

Source?

Alex_The_Iron 8:41 Tue Feb 10
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Scraper 6:25 Tue Feb 10

Most people (regardless of fat fuck status) would do best on a diet based around unprocessed, high-fibre (but not necessarily low GI as insulin is a powerful anti inflammatory) carbohydrates, lean protein from high quality sources (grass fed beef etc) and added fat mostly from omega3s and omega9s.

Artherosclerosis is caused by inflammation, which usually is caused by or causes insulin resistance. This can be caused by excess glucose OR by excess fatty acids - so a high protein, high fat, low carb diet can be just as harmful in this regard as a high carb diet (and sometimes more so as cortisol is higher with low carbs).

daveyg 6:37 Tue Feb 10
Re: You can eat butter

Margarine was invented as a food supplement to fatten up Turkey's for Christmas. It was then added with yellow dye to make it look like butter as a cheaper alternative to butter.

DukeofDevo 6:31 Tue Feb 10
Re: You can eat butter

I've used butter sparingly since I saw Last Tango in Paris!

Scraper 6:25 Tue Feb 10
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Alex_The_Iron 5:55 Tue Feb 10

What if you don't care about adipose tissue (ie you're not a fat fuck)... If you only care about healthy arteries, what would you suggest is the ideal diet? A so called 'balanced (Western) diet' will definitely lead to build-up of plaque.

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